Episode 87

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25th Aug 2025

72:: Atomic Habits for the girls

Have you heard of the book Atomic Habits? I rebelled against that book for so long, but after reading it earlier this year, I now completely get the hype! We chat through the basics of the book Atomic Habits and apply it to our health and wellness as women! With the end of the summer and the start of a new school year, a lot of us are trying to find what we want our new routines to be. Once we find those routines, how will we make sure to stick with them and make them habits! We chat about the steps from Atomic Habits today and things that really stood out to me with the book! We also chat about habits I’m trying to form and how I apply the Atomic Habits framework to my own life! 

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00:00- 00:17 Intro

00:18- 00:49 Atomic Habits & Women’s Health

00:50- 02:13 Personal Stories and Real-Life Examples

02:14- 03:08 Introduction to Atomic Habits

03:09- 07:29 Steps to Forming a Habit

07:30- 09:48 Steps to Breaking a Habit

09:49- 12:30 Additional Tips and Conclusion

12:31- 13:22 Thorne

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Transcript
Speaker:

A lot of the inspiration I have

for each of these podcast episodes

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comes from conversations I have with

patients, with friends, with family,

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and this episode is no different.

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So we're gonna dive in today about

atomic habits and habit formation,

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building consistency within

your routines, primarily related

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to health and wellness goals.

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So welcome back to Wellness, pick the Pod.

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I'm your host, Dr.

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Kelsey Vic, a board certified

orthopedic doctor of physical therapy,

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a pelvic floor physical therapist.

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And a pelvic floor or physical

therapist, and this conversation

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has come up twice over the last,

I'd say, probably month or so.

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Oh, even shorter than that, honestly,

maybe two weeks where my cousin and one

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of my best friends were both talking about

how to create these healthy routines given

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this life transition that they're in.

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My cousin.

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Graduating from college and moving

into like a full-time job and

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her like true, real adult life.

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And my friend, who is just recently

a mom of two and trying to figure

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out where to put exercise into her

routine given the chaos of her life.

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And I thought it was a neat.

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perspective to have both someone

who's going from college into like

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her real adult job, and then someone

who has been a mom of one now going

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into a mom of two and learning how to

navigate that and that they're both

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struggling with the exact same thing.

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And the advice that I gave to both of them

in addition to just like commiserating

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with them because I've totally been In

their situation in regards to trying to

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rebuild consistency with a life change.

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Not necessarily two kids, although I

have gone from, school to an adult job.

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So I have been in my cousin's situation,

but not my friend's situation.

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But I thought it was interesting Those

conversations both came up over the

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last two weeks, so I figured let's

dive in a little bit more because as

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we start this new school year, as our

general routines start to change going

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from summer into fall, I thought this

was a necessary episode on things that

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I've learned when it comes to habits

and consistency and then science

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backed tips for habits and consistency.

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So for starters, I was rebelling

against the book Atomic

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Habits for the longest time.

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Everyone talked about the book Atomic

Habits, and I just did not wanna read

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it because of how popular it was.

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I'm not typically A rebel, but in this

instance, I did not wanna read it, but

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this year my goal was to read all of

the like boring business books or trendy

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business books, or trendy self-help books.

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And I started with Atomic

Habits and it was fantastic.

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A lot of the tips and

points in this book were.

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Sort of mindset shifts for me,

and also allowed me to reflect on

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how I've been able to build some

habits super consistently and some

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habits not super consistently.

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So we'll dive into what that book

talks about when it comes to habit

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formation, and then we'll start to

apply some of those categories and his

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process into some of the routines that

a lot of people struggle with when it

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comes to their health and wellness.

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In order to make a habit, we want to

break it down into a few different steps.

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We wanna make it obvious, we wanna make

it attractive, we wanna make it easy,

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and we might want to make it satisfying.

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So we'll start with making it obvious.

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This means putting your clothes

out on the chair the night before.

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If you're gonna have an

early morning workout.

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A lot of the time when I am trying to

form a habit for the first time, at the

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end of the day, I'll reflect on the time

that I had throughout the day to do that

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habit and where I failed at doing that

habit, simply because I forgot, simply

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because I did not make it obvious.

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For example, if I'm trying to eat

a little bit healthier, I am much

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more likely to grab vegetables that

are pre-cut in the fridge already.

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I can just open the fridge, see the

pre-cut vegetables and grab those.

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So that's me making it obvious for myself,

for someone who's trying to work out.

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Again, putting those clothes on the

chair at the beginning of the day.

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At the end of the day, whenever you're

planning to schedule the workout might

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just cue you in the right way in order to.

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Do the action that is

going to build that habit.

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The second one, making it attractive.

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So workout with your favorite music,

organize the meal, prepping in the pantry.

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I don't know if you guys are

like me, but I oftentimes.

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Pin, the super aesthetic pantry

organization or closet organization or

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fridge organization on my Pinterest,

and that is a way to make meal

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prepping and healthy eating attractive.

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Same thing with working out workout

to music, workout with a friend.

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Add in something that makes

that habit attractive to you,

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especially in the beginning.

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We covered our dopamine system last

week and we've covered it before, but

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last week we related it to the summer.

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I turned pretty show.

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So if you miss that episode, I

highly recommend to go back and

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listen to it because along with

making it attractive, we can't make

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it attractive every single time.

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We can't.

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Always work out with music, with

friends, and making it super exciting

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every time because then that excitement

will wane a little bit and we'll have

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to add on something additional in

order to maintain that motivation and

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maintain that pursuit towards that goal.

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So we cover that in last week's episode.

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If you wanna go check it out,

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the next step is making it easy.

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I'll relate it back to the meal

prepping example and My goal of snacking

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a little bit healthier, I am much

more likely to snack on vegetables

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that have already been cut up.

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If I see a full cucumber in the

fridge, a full bell pepper, I am much

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less likely to grab it than if I am

able to meal prep it the week before,

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the day before or the Sunday before.

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If I chop it up, I'm much

more likely to grab it.

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So that's.

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Present Kelsey, making it

easier for future Kelsey.

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And the same thing applies

to a lot of different habits.

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As you can make it easy and make it

something where you don't have to cross

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as many barriers in order to accomplish

the task that is going to get you to

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form that habit, the better off you'll

be long term to form that habit.

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Another habit that I think I've mentioned

before, but I wanted to have a dedicated

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hour of prayer every week where I really

like turned off all distractions and I

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journaled, brought my Bible, I brought

all of the readings for the week,, I

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wanted to have that dedicated hour.

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And in order to build that habit, I

tried to make it easier on myself by

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after work, after my last patient, I

would drop by the church on the way home.

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Pray for an hour and then head back home.

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So since I was already passing the church,

might as well go into it and do the task

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that is going to make me form that habit

of improving my prayer life and deepening

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my faith relationship by making it easy

and just stopping by the church on the

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way home and not having to say, okay,

on this Saturday I'm gonna drive to

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the church, pray, and then drive home.

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That's it.

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A greater barrier to entry for

me than just driving to the

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church on my way home from work.

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And lastly, to form a habit, you

have to make it satisfying, and

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that can mean occasional rewards.

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Maybe you want to work out a little

bit more so you dress a little bit

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cuter, or maybe your goal is to.

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Eat healthier snacks.

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It's okay to make, you know, little

ants on a log or little animals with

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the vegetables, or put it in a really

fun, cute little snack box for yourself.

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A bento box, whatever it is.

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It's okay to reward yourself by making

it satisfying, whether visually,

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whether with a new outfit, whatever

that healthy routine is you're

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trying to build, make it satisfying.

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In order to break a habit, we

wanna do the opposite of those,

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so we have to make it invisible.

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Make it unattractive, make it

hard and make it unsatisfying.

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So for make it invisible.

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I struggle with this with snacking

a lot of the time in My pantry,

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I'm a big tortilla chips girl.

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Tortilla chips and salsa is my go-to

tortilla chips, melted cheese, and I've

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found that when I make that snack option

hidden or more invisible, I'm less likely

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to pull that snack and more likely to

go check the fridge to see if I have

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healthier snack options available to me.

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If you struggle with watching TV when

you're supposed to be exercising,

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maybe hide the remote to where

you're always sort of searching,

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and then that might cue you.

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Oh, that's right.

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I'm not necessarily wanting to do

this anymore for my future self.

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I want to replace this habit or this

routine that I've gotten into with a

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healthier routine in the form of exercise.

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Make it unattractive.

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I think cancellation fees

are extremely unattractive.

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If I sign up for a workout class, I

am way less likely to cancel myself.

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So even if you have to add a little

bit of financial incentive to the

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task, I think that is a way to make

it unattractive if you cancel on

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the studio or cancel on yourself.

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Make it hard coming back to the snacks.

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If I hide the chips in the deepest part

of my drawer in the back of my pantry

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or on the back shelf of my pantry and I

have to move a lot of different things

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in order to access those chips, I'm way

less likely to grab those because it

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takes a lot of effort to access them.

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So applying that, make it hard strategy

to those habits that you also wanna break.

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And the last one, make it unsatisfying.

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So let's say you're trying to stop the

doom scroll or stop the TV watching

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or limit your blue light exposure or.

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Get more sleep.

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If you can give yourself this ultimatum

like, okay, if I go over my screen

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time, I owe myself 25 50 pushups

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or if I turn on the TV and I'm watching

it for more than two hours, I owe

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myself something that I do not like

Unloading the dishwasher or doing a

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chore that I don't like to do, you

can pair that habit that you wanna

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break with an unsatisfying activity.

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Again, you have to have the discipline

to follow it through, but if you can

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make that habit that you wanna break

unsatisfying, you're more likely to

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replace it with a habit that you want

to implement for your future self.

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Some other general tips that I've

really taken to heart and probably

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the things That have stuck with me

the most since reading that book.

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The first one being change the language

you use and how you identify yourself.

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So if you're trying to form a habit

and you're talking to a friend,

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and let's say you're trying to

exercise more, if you say, oh yeah,

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I can't, I'm trying to exercise more.

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The act of you saying, I'm trying

to means that you identify as

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someone who currently isn't.

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I'm trying to exercise more, meaning

I am not someone who exercises

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as much as I want to right now.

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And if you can switch the

language to be like, I can't come

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tomorrow, I'm an exerciser, or I.

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Go to the Saturday morning

yoga sculpt class every, every

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weekend, and I can't miss it.

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So that's you identifying as someone

who is an exerciser who goes to this

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yoga sculpt class rather than someone

who's trying to be an exerciser.

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The classic example is smoking.

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If you say, I'm trying to quit smoking,

that is still you identifying as a smoker

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who's trying to quit, rather than if

you say, oh, I'm sorry, I don't smoke.

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Now you're identifying as a non-smoker.

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So applying that to whatever habit

you're trying to build or trying

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to form will help you identify as

that future version of yourself

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and that present version of you.

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In order to help you break a bad

habit and then reform the habit

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that you actually want to form.

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And then lastly, again, this ties back

to the dopamine system, but varying

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the rewards helps to maintain that

motivation throughout the journey.

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If you always make it super

satisfying, super exciting by

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working out with friends, by

always eating your favorite snack.

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That's only going to increase your

need for even more of a dopamine

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boost in order to get that motivation.

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So if you can vary the rewards and

make it a little bit more intermittent

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when you get the rewards, rewards

being, you know, the new workout

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set, or working out with a friend or

doing your absolute favorite workout,

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that might be a little bit expensive.

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If you can vary those rewards, you'll

be able to maintain that motivation

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for longer throughout your journey.

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Of habit formation.

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With the start of the school year, with

the start of just sort of like this

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back half of the year, I thought it'd be

fun to go through these habit formation

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tips and tricks and things like that.

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So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

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It pairs well with the dopamine episode.

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So again, I highly recommend it's

the episode right before this one.

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So check it out if you want to pair them.

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And if you're looking to bring in

some new, like healthy routines

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as we shift into the back half of

the year into this sort of like.

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Summer turns into fall when things

start to buckle down a little bit

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more and leave this like summer

of fun stage that we're in.

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So I hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Thank you guys as always for your support.

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Thanks for listening and I will

see you guys again on the next

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