Episode 81

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14th Jul 2025

66:: butter as a longevity tool!? (& more health & wellness trends to keep a pulse on!)

Wellness girl chat with us as we chat health & wellness trends of the summer! There is a time to pay attention to trends and a time to brush them to the side. In this episode, we chat how to embrace the trends and check them with what we know about our bodies so we can stay ahead of the curve! We chat butter as a longevity compound, "soft girl era", the shift away from biohacking, and more. Listen in with us!

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00:0000:17 Intro

00:1802:05 Introduction to Wellness Trends

02:0604:44 The Rise of Dairy for Longevity

04:4506:22 Shifting Focus: Basics Over Biohacking

06:2308:25 The Controversy of 'Skinnytok'

08:2610:52 Embracing Flexibility in Health and Wellness

10:5311:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

11:3412:25 Thorne

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Transcript
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We are gonna chat about some of the

current health and wellness trends that

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I am keeping my eye on, keeping a pulse

on, especially throughout the summer.

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Welcome back to Wellness Fixes the Pod.

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I'm your host, Dr.

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Kelsey Vic, a board certified

orthopedic doctor, physical therapy,

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and a pelvic floor physical therapist.

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And you guys know I try and keep

this podcast as science backed, as

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research backed as possible, but.

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Sometimes science and research

takes five to 10 years in order

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for something to become mainstream.

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So I like to combine some of the trendier

things that I'm hearing about, that

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I'm questioning a little bit more of

the woo woo out there things with some

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of the science and the physiological

happenings within our body to know, oh

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wait, there's a little bit of a basis

to stand on with this like WOOWOO trend

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based on how our body processes or

handles a certain compound or routine

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or behavior or something like that.

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So I like to hear about

some of the trends.

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I like to hear about some of the more

out there things, because previously

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there's so many things that we have

adopted in our everyday lives that

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used to be woowoo and out there.

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So it's important that we.

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Keep an eye on some of the trends,

but then also compare it to how we

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know and how we understand how the

body works in order to know, okay,

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is this something that I should be

giving a little bit of merit to?

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Or is it something that

is completely woo woo?

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There's no.

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Scientific basis for it at all, and I

should just brush it away and move along.

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So we're gonna talk about some of

those today, and some of them are more

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physiology related, and then some of them

are more just trends that I've noticed

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on social media and things that I'm sure

you guys are also hearing about too.

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So the first one's my favorite

and one that I think we'll be

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hearing about more and more.

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Almost like the big colostrum

push, the big greens powder push.

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I think this will be in

the same vein as that.

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And that is the rise of butter, cheese,

and dairy products for longevity.

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This one's relatively new, but I link

it back to remember, I don't know if

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you guys had any of your parents or

friends', parents or family members

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who used to say, don't eat the yolk

because it has high cholesterol in it.

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Until we realized that, okay, no, it's

okay to eat the yolk because it still

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has the good cholesterol in it as well.

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It used to be that cholesterol,

all types of cholesterol were bad.

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Same thing with olive oil.

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All oils used to be bad

and now it's okay, wait.

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Maybe there is some benefit to some

of the good fats that are in oils.

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This, I think, is along those same lines,

and they're finding newer and newer

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research that there is a compound in one

to 3% dairy fat products called C 15 that

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has been shown to improve some of the

longevity metrics in our cardiovascular

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health, our metabolic health, our

immune system, our liver health.

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So they're saying it's this longevity

compound that people who do not have

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enough of this in their system might

not have as high of those markers

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that we want when we are aging or as

we get to those decades of our lives.

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So what even is C 15?

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C 15 is called like the, I

guess non layperson term.

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It's called ecic acid, and it's an

essential odd chain saturated fatty acids.

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Side note, saturated fats used to be

also in that same line as cholesterol

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and oils, like saturated fats were bad.

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We wanna stay away from saturated fats.

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And yes, like we do want to watch

them, but we don't wanna stay away

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from them because they are essential.

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And there are some like

CC 15 that are essential.

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So the research has shown people with

low circulating C 15 concentrations have

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a higher risk of having or developing

type two diabetes, heart disease

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and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease,

as well as specific types of cancer.

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And that study was done in 2023.

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So a relatively newly researched

longevity metric, to look at.

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So where is C 15?

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Found items with one to 3% dairy

fat, a k, a whole fat dairy products

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like buttermilk, cream and cheeses.

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And it's been shown that 100 to 300

milligrams of C 15 is needed to maintain

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minimum active circulating levels of

C 15 for those physiological benefits.

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So again, something to keep my eye on a

little bit and to basically decrease some

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of the fears surrounding butter creams.

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Cheeses, because I know that's also been a

big one where people are like, no butter's

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bad for you, but maybe if it does have

this longevity compound in it, it could

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be beneficial for us in the right dosages.

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So the next trend that I've just

been noticing is the swing from

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super regimented, super disciplined

biohacking to focusing on the basics.

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I feel like people are getting tired

and burnt out of having to wake up

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a certain hour time their sunlight

exposure, make sure they're minimizing

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blue light, minimizing toxicity

within their environment, exercising

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and getting the strength training

in the cardiovascular training,

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the power training, the red light

therapy, all of these things, it

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gets a little overwhelming and I feel

like a lot of people are starting to.

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Block out some of the biohacking and start

to shift more towards an intuitiveness

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within their body and focusing on the

basics, exercise or movement of some sort.

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Sleep, stress management, proper

fueling, mindfulness, meditation, all of

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these sort of foundational principles.

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And I am really loving

this shift because I do.

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Enjoy learning about the different

biohacking things that we can do and

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the different things that we can do to

trick our system in order to elevate our

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dopamine levels or improve our circadian

rhythm and different things like that.

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But I do feel like that is like

a 10% of our health and wellness,

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where the rest, the 80 to 90%

comes from mastering the basics.

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So if we're not getting sleep,

if we're not moving properly, or.

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Enough if we're not fueling in the right

way, if we're not managing our stress,

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which again, easier said than done, but

all of those basics probably make up 80

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to 90% of our overall health and wellness.

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And so I feel like we've been focusing

on that 10% or trying to biohack

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our way to health, when in reality

we really do need to spend most of

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our time focusing on those basics.

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So I am really loving that shift.

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Another trend I've noticed, especially on

social media, is the rise of skinny talk.

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And I've been hearing about this more and

more, but I wasn't necessarily getting

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served those sorts of videos, so I wasn't

as aware of it as I am now that I am

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getting served more and more of those

videos and like actually looking into

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it and researching it for this episode.

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But the idea is that there are these

creators who are promoting Skinny

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Talk or writing that line between.

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Motivational and then toxic for getting

the aesthetic and body composition

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goals that you want for yourself.

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IE Skinny talk.

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So if you've been served some of

these videos and you have a history

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of body image issues or eating

disorders, this can become very toxic.

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And I never like to, demonize

aesthetic goals that people have

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as long as they are healthy goals.

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And that people realize that there

are healthy ways to go about reaching

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those body composition aesthetic goals,

and I feel like skinny talk can ride

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on either side of that line where it

can be toxic for the people who maybe

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have a history of body image issues

or eating disorders, but it might also

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be motivational for some people who.

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Are struggling to make those

healthy behavior changes.

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So I think what's important with

this is just understanding where your

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mindset is, where your history is when

it comes to those sorts of issues that

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we've all probably struggled with at

one time or another, and realizing,

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am I doom scrolling and getting in

this negative mindset around skinny

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talk in these videos that I'm seeing?

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Or is it more motivational and it's

promoting some of these healthier habits?

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Within my day to day routine that might

help me reach different goals that I have.

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I have seen skinny tuck videos

that are completely toxic and

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do not ride that line at all.

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But I have seen some where they do

ride more on that motivational side.

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So I think it just comes down to awareness

of where your thought patterns are and

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then stopping it in its tracks, or I don't

know if you can on TikTok, say, I don't

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wanna see this kind of video anymore.

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Or like pausing that and just

creating that boundary for yourself

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and your own mental health.

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And the last trend that I've been

noticing goes into that shift from super

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regimented biohacking to more mastering

the basics, and that is this comfort

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creator, soft girl mindset surrounding

your health and wellness, where it's

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not as regimented, but if you enjoy.

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Eating pastas and putting butter on

your pastas or eating chips every now

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and then with a girl's movie night.

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Like I see this trend where people are

realizing that the relationships they

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build with others around food especially

are more important than making sure that

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they are eating gluten-free, organic

free, dairy-free, sugar-free all the time.

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And I like that this shift is happening.

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This is not including girls

with allergy restrictions.

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I totally understand that.

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So if you are truly allergic to gluten,

allergic to dairy, this is not for you.

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But I do feel like there are some of us

who have been, limiting certain things,

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thinking that it's healthy for us.

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Whether that's butter, whether that's

real noodles, whether that is chips that

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we're eating with friends or cookies

that we're eating at a movie night.

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When in reality, relationships and

the quality of your relationships

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is one of the top predictors of

your happiness throughout life.

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So I'm seeing the shift from

regimented routines and being

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super disciplined in those health.

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Behaviors that someone might adopt to

this flexibility within their daily lives.

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This okay, it's okay to just

cook yummy food and eat homemade

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pizza and harvest different.

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Herbs for the salad that we're

making or whatever it might be.

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And I'm loving this shift.

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There's a few creators that I

follow who just promote some of

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this mindset, and I really feel

like they're growing in popularity

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because of the relaxed way that they

approach life and health and wellness.

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And I like being able to see that

from others and knowing that other

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people are also getting that content.

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And possibly shifting that super

regimented mindset of health and wellness

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is only this, we can only eat this way.

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We can only exercise this way when in

reality it can be different for everyone.

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And it can be, and it should be

this flexibility within your life

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to incorporate some of these health

and wellness behaviors while still

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like keeping it fun and keeping it.

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I guess not even focused on health

and wellness necessarily, but thinking

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about friendships and relationships

and all of these larger variables

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that go into having a wonderful life.

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So these are just some of the trends

that I've been noticing, especially

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throughout the summer and they're

picking up pace a little bit more.

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And some of 'em I'm loving.

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Some of 'em I am wary of, and some of

'em I am just gonna keep an eye on a

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little bit to see how they develop and

how the research comes out about 'em.

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But I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.

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I hope you also have learned something

about some of the new trends and are.

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Open to them, but then also realizing

like, okay, there is this healthy

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way to approach trends by also

looking at how our body functions.

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So that's where I hope this episode

and this podcast meets you at.

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So I hope you enjoyed this episode

and I will see you again on the next

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episode of Wellness Exists, the pod.

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